Costco Report

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 03/10/2020 at 12:27 • Filed to: None

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No poo paper, but plenty of water. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:33

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Jesus. People are nuts, I had to go shopping at 6:30am yesterday to secure some TP.

All this has been a good reminder to check the status of my emergency kits. Nothing serious, but it would get me through at least a few days of being in a bad situation.

MonkeePuzzle > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:33

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*long exasperated sigh*

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:33

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They’re out of toilet paper? Is that just from people freaking out about Covid-19? Why is TP such a hot commodity? What am I missing? Or is it people are just stocking up in general so they don’t have to go out?

I don’t get it.  Maybe because I don’t have a compromised immune system, but I’m just going on living my life.  I’m not letting the virus control what I do. 

Long_Voyager94 > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:34

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Had a good laugh walking into our local Costco this weekend. Grab a cart, walk through the front door, then there’s 2 people wiping down carts with disinfectant wipes.

Me being the ass I am had to comment. “Lot of F-ing sense it makes to wipe the carts after everyone’s already touched them?”

People all around gave me dirty looks as they all realized they’d already touched the “infected” carts before they got wiped down.

ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:34

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I don’t understand the water thing at all. Most of America is so sparsely populated compared to China and Italy that I just can’t see any way tap water supply would fail.

Arrivederci > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:35

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My wife went this past weekend as we needed our normal supply of TP and was mad that she had to buy the name brand since they were out of the Kirkland stuff. Unbelievable that they had to limit people from buying TP of all things.

Assuming a two-week quarantine, how many rolls would a family of four actually use?  Four?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:35

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I found a role of TP in my desk. I’m going to sell it by the square on EBay. 

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:35

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The wife was giggling about the run on toilet paper, but apparently NOT on other supplies. She is a physician and had no explanation.

I’d still like to start the rumor that “it’s just like hurricane prep” to see if I can get the plywood flying off the rack s over at the Home Depot.

ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 03/10/2020 at 12:36

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Fear of being quarantined, which I just can’t see happening in suburban/rural America.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 03/10/2020 at 12:38

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My wife’s a doctor and she was giggling about it too. There “might” be supplies you’d want to have on hand, but it’s completely unclear to her why stocking up on toilet paper would be the smart move.

You’d think, given the respiratory nature of the infections, that Kleenex might go first... but... 

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 12:38

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I think it’s a fear of a repeat of Wuhan (1+ months of lockdown now), but even then, you can’t stock up on everything for a month unless you have five freezers.

Even Wuhan residents have a permit system to come out every 3-ish days to buy supplies.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/10/2020 at 12:40

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Wasn’t the joke in the late 1980s that there were toilet paper shortages in Moscow, so the State Department would fax in new supplies of toilet paper to the Embassy there?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Long_Voyager94 03/10/2020 at 12:41

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If you’re carrying the wipes on you, best to wipe the cart before you pull it out of the stack. Otherwise, with where most supermarkets place the can of wipes, you have to hand-sanitise again, or rub your hands on the harsh bleachy detergent on the cart.

Long_Voyager94 > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 03/10/2020 at 12:42

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I guess I’m not that anal about it.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 12:46

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Well TP  does have a dual use

jimz > Long_Voyager94 03/10/2020 at 12:47

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appropriate choice of words in a thread about butt tape. 

66P1800inpieces > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 12:48

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TP is where I draw the line. Price to comfort I am brand name Charmin all the way. Especially at Costco.

Arrivederci > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 03/10/2020 at 12:49

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Fair point, but still more than a little crazy.  The hand sanitizer run is also a little nuts - the virus is easily killed by proper hand washing.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 12:50

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My teenage child uses half a role per poop. 

Thomas Donohue > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 12:50

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Ironically, COVID-19 doesn’t really give you a runny nose, it’s all in the lungs.

For Sweden > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:54

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Toilet paper production will increase in the next five-year plan, comrade.  Just wait in line until then.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Long_Voyager94 03/10/2020 at 12:55

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Yes, but part of the wipe-down is wiping your own hands, first, with the wipe.

lone_liberal > ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy 03/10/2020 at 12:56

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Not to mention that if we are at the point of municipal water systems failing then we are well and truly fucked and a few days worth of bottled water isn’t going to save your ass.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 12:57

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I can go 60 days. With my family. And no electricity or water . I must be an idiot, right? Not sure my TP would last that long, though...

DipodomysDeserti > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 12:58

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My local grocery store had plenty of TP. Thankfully poor people don’t spend extra money hoarding shit, because I used my last roll last night.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > lone_liberal 03/10/2020 at 12:59

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Perhaps not, but you’d be able to wipe your ass...

I’ve got at least 30 days worth of water on hand, along with food and fuel and solar cell phone charging capability. And toilet paper... Judging from what I’ve been reading, that would make me an idiot.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 13:12

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Realistically with no outside help or utilities, I suspect I could go a week without major issues cropping up. Longer than that, it isn’t realistic and the things you didn’t prepare for will get you (like TP).

Where I live, our major risk is still a destabilizing earthquake. The other realistic risks are house fires, storms, and vehicle crashes.

My emergency kit has enough food for a week as well as some water for a couple days. I wanted my kit to be pretty mobile and used in combination with extra gear I carry in the Kia.

Metro Vancouver is a very wet place, so I don’t think finding water would be a challenge, which is why I have a lot of purification/filtration equipment in my kit. Lighter than water too.

Rain pants, raincoat, poncho and blankets round it out. All stored in a drybag.

The most critical things in my kit are: External batteries with solar charging (x2) and an encrypted USB with health records, copies of ID, home/vehicle titles and other info.

In the car there is more water with a respirator, protective coveralls, disposable gloves, eye protection, a shovel and another first aid kit.

WRXforScience > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 13:14

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At least TP is a non-perishable good, so eventually, it’ll all get used. I only buy it maybe once a year, but that’s like a ‘family sized’ pack (18 roll type deal). Of course, I’m single and don’t mind using the facilities at work.

DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 13:14

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That’s a lot of water for living in an urban environment.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 13:14

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Four rolls over two weeks for 4 people? Damn.  You guys are REALLY conservative with the TP

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 03/10/2020 at 13:15

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you can’t stock up on everything for a month unless you have five freezers.

This.  Why I stop at a week.  Gotta survive those first critical days post emergency, figure shit out and then move forward/

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 13:17

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RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 13:17

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You’d be an idiot if the reason you acquired that hoard was irrational fear of the coronavirus outbreak specifically. If you were already prepared for a major natural disaster or nuclear war or whatever, that’s different. I have some emergency supplies in the event of an earthquake (or nuclear war, I guess, but the main motivator where I live is earthquakes) . I damn sure didn’t go out and buy a bunch of bottled water and toilet paper because I’m afraid that the virus will somehow take out my local utility company or stop all freight supply lines . I did get some hand sanitizer though, mostly for the dog walker to use .

DipodomysDeserti > lone_liberal 03/10/2020 at 13:17

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Yes, large municipal water systems failing would be a good sign that we are truly fucked.

I live in a municipal area of six million people, and have been put on boil notices several times throughout my life.

7:07 > jimz 03/10/2020 at 13:20

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Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 13:22

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our home depot also sells toilet paper!

Brickman > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 13:24

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Just use printer paper or those unused checks you have laying in the bottom of the filing cabinet :P

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 13:28

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That’s a helluva kit and some good planning. I’ve been building mine up slowly but surely. I’m probably close to that level but not nearly as organized.

T he problem I’m facing is that both my wife and I require some serious medications . A week or two would probably be fine, but after a month we’d be screwed. That’ s when we’d run out of meds and we’d be eaten by Ozzy/wolves/vultures/cannibals.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > WRXforScience 03/10/2020 at 13:33

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Getting paid to poop!

lone_liberal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 13:34

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Water for a hurricane or earthquake prep kit makes sense, those things take water systems offline. For a virus? I don’t see the case for that. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Snuze: Needs another Swede 03/10/2020 at 13:34

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Both my wife and I work in crisis response rolls. I’ve seen a huge amount of people become homeless or lose everything with no safety net or no immediate game plan.

Life changing disasters happen every day, all day long. They just happen to be either hyper local or personal.  There are also a lot of emergencies that the police/fire/ambulance can’t help you with.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 03/10/2020 at 13:35

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Mine does too. This hit during a time period when I was (for lack of planning) was completely out— and had none out at the shop either— so I did go a “little Heavy” on my Home Depot buy, but didn’t go crazy.

PartyPooper2012 > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 13:43

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Folks, don’t forget - if all else fails, newspapers... of course it’s all digital now. Wife might get mad when you wipe with the ipad again

ttyymmnn > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 03/10/2020 at 13:44

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That’s the thing. Even at the epicenter of this pandemic, they haven’t reverted to the Middle Ages. 

ttyymmnn > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/10/2020 at 13:44

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I’ve already spoken to my son of a similar description. 

ttyymmnn > Long_Voyager94 03/10/2020 at 13:45

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Since Costco has suspended free samples, they had the sample people outside wiping down carts. 

ttyymmnn > PartyPooper2012 03/10/2020 at 13:49

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Screen name checks out.

There’s also the shower. 

CalzoneGolem > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 13:57

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We were getting low on TP so I bought the biggest pack I could find. I’m part of the problem.

ttyymmnn > CalzoneGolem 03/10/2020 at 14:02

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I went to Costco last week when the run on TP was just beginning. We didn’t need any, but I went ahead and bought some so I wouldn’t get caught out when we did. I don’t consider myself part of the problem. I just didn’t want to get screwed by those who are. 

avalonian > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:06

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Could you make a run down post of all the stuff you have? I think that would help some of us novices in emergency preparedness!

Nom De Plume > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:07

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It’s the bowl they were born to play.

I thought it might be PLARP’ing but they probably sit on their phone like everyone else. So online japanese  fetish type game . But that doesn’t account for the toilet paper usage. So, going with PLARP’ing and Costco, how many toilet brushes swords do you go through in a typical month?

Nom De Plume > ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy 03/10/2020 at 14:10

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OR the entire North of Italy.

Nom De Plume > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 14:12

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Meaning shop rags are still cheap and plentiful.  Useful for carrying around in a pocket to stifle coughs with too.  If you really give it a hard look this is no worse than washable cloth diapers.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 14:14

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Bottled water makes a lot of sense considering how Covid-19 has gotten into so many reservoirs lately. You haven’t heard?

/this is how hysteria starts

Nom De Plume > DipodomysDeserti 03/10/2020 at 14:15

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I know.  To top it off he totally shot down my idea about carrying emergency beer.  Basically improved water with Calcium and calories needed in tense situations.

Nom De Plume > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 14:17

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Why not just go full French and dump cologne into this pile of necessities.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 14:23

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Does your wife have any insights in to testing being done on patients coming in? Our 2 year old has had a very low grade fever/elevated temp for the past week with zero symptoms other than that. Our pediatrician is running a gamut of tests as it has been a few days with no change or other symptoms. We weren’t concerned about COVID-19 but just asked if that was something they’re testing for as well, since it appears kids have been showing very mild symptoms if at all with this virus.

The response we got from the nurse running swabs on her – in full bunny suit, mind you – was “oh no, we haven’t been testing anyone for that yet – we haven’t even received directions on how to order a test yet !”. So yeah, 1 million test kits sent out but very, very few people actually being tested unless they meet some very specific criteria (i.e. very sick AND travelled to China or been around someone who has ).

This is having the stupid effect of understating the infected numbers, but as a result also overstating the mortality rate. In a scenario where you have two seemingly scary options, wouldn’t it be best to just focus on knowing the truth?

facw > ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy 03/10/2020 at 14:25

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I don’t know. I can’t imagine people would react well, but we have a “containment zone” with New York National Guard presence being created in New Rochelle, and there’s rumors of some sort of quarantine being planned for Seattle.

facw > Nom De Plume 03/10/2020 at 14:26

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I have a bidet toilet seat (not currently installed) if things get messy here.

Arrivederci > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:31

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LMAO

Arrivederci > 66P1800inpieces 03/10/2020 at 14:31

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The Kirkland stuff is actually pretty good.

WRXforScience > Snuze: Needs another Swede 03/10/2020 at 14:31

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I’m a high school teacher, so I’m on contract and not hourly. But still, I’m at school and ‘working’.

Arrivederci > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:32

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How much TP do you use by yourself in a week?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 03/10/2020 at 14:35

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We went out and stocked up on extra TP, but we did it early and avoided the crush. Just beefing up our hoard . Being completely honest, I get judgy anytime a bunch of people go out and do something just because. Like all wear the same thing, or all buy the same car, or whatever. Lemming behavior. I think if the comments were, “Look at the lemmings!” I’d be more okay than mocking people for trying to take the virus threat seriously the best way they can individually figure out how to.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > lone_liberal 03/10/2020 at 14:37

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I don’t see the case for that.

Here it is.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 14:37

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Honestly? I have no idea. 

Arrivederci > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:44

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You mean you don’t spreadsheet out your usage by square?!

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/10/2020 at 14:45

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I’m an Eagle Scout, so “ be prepared” and all that. My wife and I are both fortunate and (relatively) smart - we have good jobs with good benefits , a solid nest egg, carry insurance, etc., so in that sense we are secure. We also have lots of family with in a 1 hours radius and I don’t think they would have a problem supporting us, at least short term . In general we’ve got lots of support and a good safety net.

I think we’d be fine under most normal circumstances, but the medical stuff would be difficult to overcome in the event of a major, major catastrophe, i.e. nuclear war, zombie apocalypse, etc.

One thing I do need to get better about is records - I like your idea of an encrypted USB with docs on it.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Arrivederci 03/10/2020 at 14:46

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Not yet lol

Where have all the lightweights gone? > PartyPooper2012 03/10/2020 at 14:48

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RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 14:55

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The lemming behavior is exactly what we’re mocking...do you think the people buying tons of bottled water or TP because of the coronavirus can plausibly articulate any reason other than the fact that other people are doing the same thing? No, because there is none. They’re not going to use more of either if they get sick, or if lots of other people do, and the only reason there could possibly be a shortage in stores is because those very people bought it all for no particular reason. Again, I differentiate the general practice of having some emergency supplies on hand at all times from the irrational lemming-like overreaction to the coronavirus. Bottled water is the one that really bugs me here.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > PartyPooper2012 03/10/2020 at 14:56

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slightly concerned about your use of the word “again” in there....

CalzoneGolem > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 15:01

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Y ou’re free to feel whatever way you’d like about your actions, but I think we’re part of the problem haha

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 03/10/2020 at 15:16

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Got it. But I wish people would state that it’s the lemming behavior they’re mocking and not the virus response. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to feel anxious about it and want to prepare somehow. Two weeks ago, I was advising my brother to go buy some bottled water and put it in his shed, a few cases for each member of his household not because coronavirus, but because good idea generally and  coronavirus.

smobgirl > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/10/2020 at 15:21

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Yeah, I just recovered from some weird respiratory-ish infection. As often as I fly, I wouldn’t be surprised if I‘v e already had it but no way I’d ever be tested!

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 15:28

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Those of us who lived in “The LDS Belt” for years are sorta more accustomed to the conservative mentality that says “can you survive with what’s in your house, garage and barn for 30 days?” Pretty much everybody across sections of Utah, Idaho, Montana and Arizona has stores of water, rice, staples, canned meat.

They get laughed at, but they are the first ones to rally to assist in times of flood, power outage or natural disaster.

I had a buddy out in Maryland, no more than 2 0 miles from Baltimore— and they got cut off for weeks when a freak storm came through and knocked all the trees (and there were LOTS of old trees out there) down and cut them off. Roads blocked, no water, no power... What do you do?

It’s civilization... but temporarily out of order.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/10/2020 at 15:33

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She was skeptical, at first, but as the stats come in I can see her getting more concerned. If you are 28 or 38 ? You are pretty unlikely to see serious impact— It’s the youngest and oldest most at risk. That’s clear from the statistics.

I can’t dispense third-hand medical advice but I’d encourage you to stay after the doctors... Testing is more readily available and, if I read right, I think the Gates Foundation kit s only take a nasal swap.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

DipodomysDeserti > Nom De Plume 03/10/2020 at 15:37

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Rusty ain’t a drinker.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 15:38

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You only lived in the LDS Belt? (Religion is something I avoid discussing here, but you are a clever lad and may well have already pegged me.)

If civilization remains out of order long enough for me to break into the provident reserves, one thing I’ll enjoy doing is offering a meal to my next door neighbors, or at least, to charge their cell phones for them.

PartyPooper2012 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 03/10/2020 at 15:46

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Different article.... obviously. 

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 15:51

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Mind you, I’m not running over to Costco with the Suburban to load up on toilet paper over a virus ... But we did lose power up near Park City Utah one winter and it STAYED off for about 3 days. A few extra blankets, some propane canisters, water, canned goods? Kept the kids occupied. Of course, I’ll always keep one car completely filled with gas at all times— just because.

The phones stayed ON for about 8 hours (must have been battery backups?) but then went down for the count as well.

I’m in SoCal right now and wondering how these folks make out when the quake hits and power/gas and water are gone for a month? Nobody’s lived through an 8.5 here... but it won’t be fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Corridor

RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 15:57

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I realize not everybody lives within walking distance of a fresh water source, so I’m certainly not saying buying bottled water as part of one’s emergency supplies in the ordinary course is a bad idea—it makes sense in lots of places. I thought it was obvious that what people (including me) are getting at by mocking it is that emptying store shelves of bottled water in response to a minor emergency that cannot plausibly affect water services in any way is counterproductive hoarding behavior that makes life worse for other people for no individual benefit . If one person or a few people responded that way it would be pointless as a response to the virus,   but ultimately harmless, or even good if it prompted them to realize their emergency supplies in general are lacking . That’s not what’s happening, and it’s not really what we’re mocking.

RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 16:00

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Lots of non-LDS people prepare for disasters too, and I think it’ s normal to have that feeling of half-wanting to have to use your supplies to help your neighbors and/or prove to yourself that you were right to have them.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 16:00

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Thanks, our little one is totally fine other than the low fever – as happy as can be and upbeat as ever. Honestly my wife (being a pediatric leukemia researcher) is more concerned about some kind of blood issue (as unlikely as that is) than COVID-19. And the numbers do really show that kids are amazingly resilient to this bug, to the extent that it’s a concern they might be the perfect carrier to spread this through schools and daycare without anyone even knowing it. In any case the main change on our side has been that we’ve been laying low to help her conserve her energy to fight whatever she is fighting, and to limit spreading whatever it might be.

We’re definitely more concerned for our older parents in their late 60s and with health issues. Was just reading about the 50 year old lawyer in NY who was just being treated for pneumonia and not identified as carrying COVID-19 until a few days ago. So much interaction with hospital staff, other patients etc, its frustrating how badly it was botched. Also the guy is in really critical condition at this point – an otherwise healthy person before this. We’re in our 30s and in good health so not horribly concerned, but it can be bad even for healthy folks and is important that we do what we can to help possible spread, especially since someone can be carrying the virus without showing any symptoms for up to 2 weeks.

I’m surprised my employer hasn’t put in place a work from home policy. There is softly worded language that people can work from home if it is feasible/makes sense, but I don’t see too many people doing this . I suspect the infection numbers are going to skyrocket over the coming days and weeks as testing becomes more aggressive, and a lot will change in how we go about our workdays. I can only hope that our medical system will be able to handle and effectively care for the numbers that we’re going to be seeing if other countries statistics are any indication.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > smobgirl 03/10/2020 at 16:09

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Funny – I had a previously scheduled primary care appointment on Friday and at check in they were acting all serious about their screening for coronavirus. The extent of which was asking if I’ve been to China recently or if I’ve been around anyone who has. My a nswer to that question was that I haven’t been to China, but work at a large company where many people regularly travel there. Nobody I work with directly has been, but I’m sure someone in my office has. Apparently that was enough for me to not get flagged as a potential carrier.  

It’s like the reality we’re living in right now where we know this is spreading in our communities is entirely being ignored in how the healthcare system is addressing this - they’re a good 50 steps behind where they should be if we have any chance of avoiding this getting out of control.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/10/2020 at 16:15

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Yeah, it’s nice to be stoic, but there’s merit to NOT having a lot of people (even school children) in close proximity. That’s the case for closing schools for a couple of weeks— they are asymptomatic, even as they pass the bug around and everybody takes it home to the parents— and Grandma and Grampa.

If you read the history of the Spanish Flu, you are struck by the sheer fact that the communities that fared the best basically shut down and isolated for awhile... as draconian as that may seem. It’s an effective way to slow down transmission.

And, if you are really thinking of taking a cruise right now?  Why?  Oh, why?

ttyymmnn > CalzoneGolem 03/10/2020 at 16:16

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The biggest pack at Coscto is the one I usually buy. But when I run out of my usual supply and can’t get any because panickers bought it all up, then I’ll be smiling when I wipe my butt. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 03/10/2020 at 16:18

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I wouldn’t say right to have them, but clever to have them... Disaster preparedness is a clever plan.

I’m with you. L emming behavior bothers me as well. Think: cruise ship tourism, for example... If I have any issue, it is with mockery in general, which I have been plenty guilty of myself and I am trying to be better about that because I don’t think it helps anything.

But I would question is whether this virus thing is a minor emergency. Time will tell about that one. People are anxious and, I think, deservedly so.

CalzoneGolem > ttyymmnn 03/10/2020 at 16:19

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I always smile when I wipe.

ttyymmnn > CalzoneGolem 03/10/2020 at 16:27

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Life is always better when you enjoy your job.

Nom De Plume > facw 03/10/2020 at 16:37

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For unrelated reasons I happened to look at the range of options available in toilets currently. Gimmicky night lights that run through DD batteries and the like were broadly ignored.  UV cleaning and the other advanced ideas are actually interesting if they don’t have a negative health benefit and still work.

ranwhenparked > PartyPooper2012 03/10/2020 at 16:38

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The Sears catalogue works too, fairly absorbent paper.

Nom De Plume > DipodomysDeserti 03/10/2020 at 16:39

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Ha, thought I was commenting on the person with a full survival kit in their trunk including a case of water.  

ranwhenparked > DipodomysDeserti 03/10/2020 at 16:52

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Yeah, but because of contaminants in the water supply due to things like construction, maintenance, or flooding. Not because a couple of people at the water works called in sick.

ranwhenparked > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 16:54

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Ive been considering selling pebbles on eBay, advertising them as magic stones that ward away coronavirus and tigers. But, that might be illegal, not sure.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ranwhenparked 03/10/2020 at 17:09

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Whoa. WHOA. WHOA!!!

Gwyneth is working that side of the street. There are RULES sir. You’d be well-advised to stay in your swim lane.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 17:11

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How So? I’ve got inlaws in San Diego. We’re heading down next month if coronavirus doesn’t have the state on lockdown. They own a condo at Crown Point. It’s fun being there on Forth of July when like a billion people come out to picnic.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/10/2020 at 19:33

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Oh, just that the infrastructure is so insufficient for any kind of Black Swan event— it’s basically a state road-transport-utility plan conceived when the state had 5 million residents. They stopped building-and-improving, largely, in the late 1970s. Today, honestly, it’s north of 40 million people— continuing to work around some gaping holes in the infrastructure.

A medium-sized earthquake? Probably not the end of the world. A large earthquake— in the middle of the Santa Anas— could be big, big trouble. Coastal tsunami in rainy season? LA’s submerged. An 8.0 while the Santa Monica mountains are burning? Disaster. The horror show on Cajon Pass a few years back? That was a taste of how bad it can be when no one can move because the roads are jammed and the disaster is descending.

Let’s put it this way— the grids in Texas, or even IOWA, are decades ahead of California’s.

Thisismydisplayname > CalzoneGolem 03/10/2020 at 20:37

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Nah, one pack is not a problem.  Loading a cart or two, that’s part of the problem.

ranwhenparked > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/10/2020 at 20:37

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That’s a vagina egg, coronavirus stones can just be kept in your pocket, or brought to your local homeopath for some sort of, I don’t know, procedure of some sort. Whatever those people do.